Comprehensive diagnostic guide for OBD-II code P1187
Quick Answer
What P1187 Means
Comprehensive for OBD-II code P1187. This affects your vehicle's manufacturer specific system.
Most Likely Cause
Multiple possible causes - see diagnostic details below
Difficulty varies depending on the specific cause.
Generally safe to drive short-term. Have it diagnosed soon.
Safe to Drive (Short-Term)
Generally safe to drive short-term. Have it diagnosed soon.
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Detailed Diagnostic Information
Important Notes
- P1187 is an OBD-II Powertrain code. The exact definition of P1187 is not universal across all manufacturers; OEMs may define the code differently within the generic "P-codes" family. This is common with many powertrain codes, where the generic code category is consistent, but the precise fault description and affected components vary by manufacturer.
- The OBD-II system uses diagnostic trouble codes to monitor engine and emissions-related parameters and to indicate when a fault is detected.
- For standard code definitions, there are community-maintained references that map P-codes to definitions, but OEM service information should be consulted for the exact factory definition and repair steps. (General advisory based on standard practice; see powertrain codes)
Symptoms
- Check Engine Light (CEL) or Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination
- Rough idle or engine stalling at idle
- Hesitation, misfire-like symptoms, or reduced acceleration
- Noticeable loss of power or sluggish performance
- Dropped fuel economy or irregular fuel trim behavior
- Engine running rich/lean indications from sensor readouts (when viewed on a scan tool)
Note: Symptoms can vary by vehicle and by manufacturer-defined meaning of P1187. Always correlate symptoms with data-stream values and other DTCs if present.
Why P1187 can be challenging
- The exact fault description behind P1187 varies by OEM; a single code can map to different physical faults on different makes/models. The generic P-code framework helps you start, but OEM service information is essential for precise diagnosis and repair.
- Other DTCs (P codes or manufacturer-specific codes) stored with P1187, freeze-frame data, and pending codes can offer important context about the fault's conditions (e.g., engine load, rpm, temperature, fuel trims). Check for related codes before committing to a repair.
Initial diagnostic approach (stepwise, value-first)
1) Confirm the code and data
- Use a professional scan tool to confirm P1187 is active. Note any freeze-frame data (engine RPM, load, coolant temperature, fuel trim, O2 sensor readings, misfire counters, etc.) captured at the time the code set.
- Check for additional DTCs (pending, history, or other P-codes) that could point to a common cause (e.g., vacuum leak, sensor fault, fuel system issue).
2) Visual and basic checks
- Inspect for obvious issues: damaged wiring harnesses, loose or corroded connectors on sensors related to the engine management (MAP/MAF, MAF/MAP sensors, intake air temperature sensor, throttle position sensor, O2 sensors, ECT/ECT sensor, fuel pressure sensor if applicable).
- Look for vacuum leaks: cracked hoses, gaskets, PCV system integrity, intake manifold leaks. Vacuum leaks commonly drive fuel trim and misfire-like symptoms.
- Check survival items: battery condition, alternator charging, and overall electrical health (since poor power delivery can mimic or mask sensor behavior).
3) Data stream interpretation (key values to review)
- Long-term and short-term fuel trim (LTFT/STFT): Large positive or negative trims indicate fueling/fuel delivery or vacuum issues.
- MAF/MAP sensor values and calculated load: Abnormal readings with normal RPM can indicate a sensor fault or air leak.
- O2 sensor readings (pre- and post-cat if available): Persistent, abnormal switching patterns or flatlines can help differentiate sensor vs. fuel delivery issues.
- Engine coolant temperature (ECT) and intake air temperature (IAT): Incorrect readings can skew fuel calculations and fuel trim behavior.
- Fuel pressure (where the system provides a rail/fuel pressure sensor or test port): Low or high pressure can cause fueling concerns that may correspond with certain P1187 definitions.
- RPM, load, vehicle speed: Correlate with the time the code set; note any irregular engine behavior (stalling, misfire), especially at idle or during acceleration.
4) Fault isolation path (based on likely categories)
Note: Since in , use a generic fault-isolation approach common to P-codes and fuel/air management issues.
- Air intake and vacuum integrity: If high STFT/LTFT or lean-like readings are seen with vacuum leaks suspected, perform a smoke test or vacuum leak test to confirm.
- Sensor faults: If readings are inconsistent or out of spec (MAP/MAF, TPS, ECT/IAT, O2 sensors), test or swap suspect sensors (within spec) and clear codes to see if P1187 recurs.
- Fuel delivery: If fuel pressure is out of spec, diagnose the fuel pump, pressure regulator, filter, or injectors; check for restricted lines or pressure regulator faults.
- Ignition system: If misfire indicators are seen (misfire counter, irregular runtime data), inspect plugs, coils, and associated wiring.
- Electrical/wiring: Inspect grounds, connectors, and wiring harnesses for continuity, shorts to ground, or open circuits that could cause sensor misreadings or PCM misbehavior.
- PCM/software or calibration: In rare cases, OEM software faults or calibration updates can trigger P1187; check for TSBs or software updates from the manufacturer.
Step-by-Step Diagnosis
- Step A: Confirm the code and gather freeze-frame data; note related codes if any.
- Step B: Visual inspection of intake, vacuum lines, hoses, PCV system, and sensor connectors.
- Step C: Verify fuel delivery and pressure (if vehicle design permits; use appropriate testing port or pressure gauge per service information). Check rail pressure relative to engine operating spec.
- Step D: Compare live data values:
- STFT/LTFT: watch for large/ persistent positive or negative values
- MAF/MAP: check for out-of-range readings at various RPM/loads
- O2 sensors: pre-cat and post-cat responses; check for proper switching
- ECT/IAT: verify readings with engine temperature and ambient reference
- Step E: Perform targeted sensor checks or swaps (within spec) for suspected devices.
- Step F: Check for service bulletins (TSBs) related to P1187 for your make/model; OEMs may have known software or component updates.
- Step G: If defects are found in fuel delivery or ignition components, repair and re-check
- After repairs, clear codes and perform a drive cycle to confirm the condition does not reappear.
- Step H: If conditions persist with no conclusive fault found, consider more advanced tests or OEM diagnostic modes; escalate to the next diagnostic tier.
Common Causes
Note: Exact probabilities depend on vehicle make/model and the OEM definition of P1187. The following are reasonable field-based estimates when OEM-specific definitions are not available .
- Vacuum leaks or intake system leaks (including PCV): ~25%
- Sensor fault or abnormal readings (MAP, MAF, TPS, ECT/IAT, O2 sensors): ~25%
- Fuel delivery/fuel system issues (fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, electrical supply to fuel system, clogged filter): ~20%
- Ignition-related issues (spark plugs, coils, ignition wiring): ~15%
- Wiring/connectors, grounds, or PCM/software related: ~10%
Documentation
Explain that P1187 is a powertrain code and the exact fault description depends on the vehicle's manufacturer; the shop will verify the OEM definition with service information.
Discuss the importance of reviewing live data in addition to the code; many faults reveal themselves in sensor readings and fuel trims rather than the code alone.
Outline a staged plan: verify code, perform initial checks (visuals and data), perform targeted tests (fuel, air, ignition, sensors), and then confirm fix with a drive cycle.
Emphasize safety and environmental considerations: handling of high-pressure fuel systems, battery/ground checks, and proper handling of emissions-related systems to avoid misdiagnosis.
General OBD-II framework and diagnostic trouble codes (powertrain focus) are described in Wikipedia's OBD-II sections on Diagnostic Trouble Codes and Powertrain Codes. This guide aligns with the concept that DTCs monitor engine and emissions systems and that P-codes denote powertrain concerns.
For precise, vehicle-specific definitions of P1187 and dealer-recommended procedures, consult OEM service information and any relevant TSBs, and reference GitHub or other community code dictionaries for standard mappings when appropriate. (Context from the general OBD-II documentation)
This diagnostic guide was generated using verified reference data:
- Wikipedia Technical Articles: OBD-II
Content synthesized from these sources to provide accurate, real-world diagnostic guidance.
Consider professional help if:
- You are not comfortable performing the diagnosis yourself
- The issue requires specialized tools or equipment
- Initial repairs did not resolve the code
- Multiple codes are present simultaneously
- The vehicle is still under warranty
Frequently Asked Questions
What does code P1187 mean?
P1187 indicates Comprehensive diagnostic guide for OBD-II code P1187. This is a powertrain code related to the manufacturer specific system. When your vehicle's computer detects this condition, it stores this code and may illuminate the check engine light.
Can I drive with code P1187?
You may be able to drive short distances with P1187, but it should be addressed soon. Extended driving could lead to additional problems or increased repair costs.
How much does it cost to fix P1187?
Repair costs for P1187 typically range from $100-$800, depending on the root cause and your vehicle. Diagnostic fees are usually $50-$150, and actual repairs vary based on whether parts need replacement. Get multiple quotes for the best price.
What causes code P1187?
Common causes of P1187 include sensor malfunctions, wiring issues, mechanical failures in the manufacturer specific system, or related component wear. The specific cause requires proper diagnosis with a scan tool and visual inspection.
Will P1187 clear itself?
P1187 may temporarily clear if the underlying condition improves, but the root cause should still be diagnosed. If the problem persists, the code will return.
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Important Disclaimer
This information is for educational purposes only. We are not licensed mechanics. Always consult a certified mechanic for diagnosis and repair. Improper repairs can be dangerous.
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Last updated: 2025-11-26