P1191

Comprehensive diagnostic guide for OBD-II code P1191 Powertrain

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Quick Answer

What P1191 Means

Comprehensive for OBD-II code P1191. This affects your vehicle's manufacturer specific system.

Most Likely Cause

Multiple possible causes - see diagnostic details below

Moderate DIY

Difficulty varies depending on the specific cause.

Address Soon

Generally safe to drive short-term. Have it diagnosed soon.

Safe to Drive (Short-Term)

Generally safe to drive short-term. Have it diagnosed soon.

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Detailed Diagnostic Information

Overview

  • What the code represents: P1191 is categorized as a Powertrain (P) OBD-II trouble code. OBD-II codes are used by modern vehicles to monitor engine, transmission, and related systems, and to signal faults when monitored parameters deviate from expected ranges (Diagnostic Trouble Codes). This framework and coding structure are described in general terms by the OBD-II articles, including the role of powertrain codes in the diagnostic system.
  • Important note about : The Wikipedia entries establish the existence and purpose of DTCs and powertrain codes, but they do not provide a vehicle-specific definition for P1191. The diagnostic guide herein uses a systematic, general-powertrain troubleshooting approach aligned with the referenced material, and applies typical field practices for a code in this category. When manufacturer-specific definitions or service information exist, consult those sources or TSBs for exact fault interpretation.

Symptoms

  • Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) illumination on/off.
  • Rough idle, engine stalling, or stumble at idle.
  • Noticeable loss of power, reduced acceleration, or hesitation under load.
  • Reduced fuel economy or abnormal fuel trims during steady driving.
  • Check Engine light comes on during startup or after a drive cycle and remains on until diagnosed and cleared.
  • These symptom patterns are consistent with general OBD-II powertrain diagnostics and align with the notion that DTCs monitor a range of parameters and alert when deviations occur.

Probable Causes

Because P1191 is not defined , explicit likelihoods for this exact code are not published . Relying on general powertrain-code experience and typical failure modes observed with similar DTCs, the following categories and rough probabilities are provided as a pragmatic starting point. Use your own shop data and vehicle-specific information to adjust these.

  • Sensor or circuit faults (highest probability in practice): 40-65%
    • Wiring harness damage, poor connections, corroded pins, or compromised grounds leading to erroneous sensor readings or PCM input.
    • Faulty sensor itself (e.g., any air, fuel, pressure, temperature, or position sensor in the related subsystem) or degraded signal quality.
  • Vacuum/air intake issues or leaks: 10-25%
    • Cracked hoses, intake manifold leaks, loose clamps, or unmetered air affecting air-fuel balance.
  • Fuel delivery/pressure or plumbing issues: 5-15%
    • Weak or failing fuel pump, clogged filters, or fuel pressure irregularities impacting mixture and performance.
  • PCM/software or calibration-related issues: 5-10%
    • Incorrect or out-of-date software calibration, or a need for software update/TSB fix that alters how parameters are monitored.
  • Mechanical faults (less common but possible): 0-10%
    • Compression issues, valve train concerns, or ignition misfire events that can trigger downstream diagnostics depending on the code's origin.

Note: These probability ranges reflect typical field experience for powertrain codes when a specific code definition is not provided . The absence of NHTSA-specific data means these figures are approximate guidance borrowed from general OBD-II troubleshooting patterns and should be refined with vehicle-specific data.

Diagnostic Approach

1) Confirm and scope the code

  • Use a contemporary scan tool to confirm the P1191 code and check for any additional codes, pending codes, or history/freeze-frame data.
  • Record the exact freeze-frame values (engine RPM, load, coolant temp, MAF/MAP, O2 sensor readings, long-term/short-term fuel trims, vehicle speed, etc.). These values guide the initial fault area (sensor, air/fuel system, or PCM).
  • Note code behavior across ignition cycles (e.g., does the MIL stay on, blink, or turn off after several drive cycles?).

2) Review related data and symptoms

  • Compare live sensor data against expected ranges and manufacturer spec if available.
  • Look for consistent patterns (e.g., fuel trims trending rich/lean, sensor values not changing when expected, or multiple sensors indicating a single subsystem fault).
  • If the vehicle has related or multiple P-codes, consider a common cause (power supply, grounding, PCM integrity, or a shared sensor rail).

3) Inspect power, grounding, and harness integrity

  • Inspect engine management power and ground circuits to the PCM and relevant sensors. Loose grounds and poor power supply can produce code faults even with a good sensor.
  • Check for damaged, loose, corroded, or routed wires in sensor harnesses, especially sections that may chafe against intake manifolds, brackets, or moving components.
  • Look for water intrusion, oxidation, or brittle insulation that could create intermittent or signal-loss conditions.

4) Evaluate the sensor/immediate subsystem inputs

  • Identify the subsystem most closely associated with the observed symptoms (air intake, fuel delivery, or sensor readings). Even though P1191's exact sensor root cause isn't specified , general practice involves testing the suspected sensor and its circuit:
    • Verify sensor supply voltage and ground with a multimeter.
    • Check signal continuity and sensor output range as per spec.
    • Inspect sensor connector integrity and cleanliness.
  • If the code is suspected to be caused by a sensor, capture live data for the suspect sensor and compare to expected performance (e.g., does sensor output respond to known input changes?).

5) Assess the air and vacuum system

  • Inspect for vacuum leaks: hoses, intake boots, throttle body seals, PCV valve/line, and manifold gaskets.
  • Listen for hissing sounds at idle; use smoke testing if available.

6) Inspect the fuel system

  • Check fuel pressure with the manufacturer's specification and ensure the pump, relay, and pressure regulator are within spec.
  • Look for signs of fuel delivery issues (puppy-hiccuping fuel pressure, erratic fueling behavior, or long-term fuel trim anomalies).

7) Mechanical and ignition considerations

  • If misfire-related symptoms are present, inspect spark plugs, ignition coils, and related wiring for proper function.
  • Perform a compression check if indicated by symptom pattern (e.g., persistent misfire with no sensor fault found).

8) Consider software and service information

  • Check for manufacturer service bulletins (TSBs) or software updates that address P1191 or related powertrain fault patterns. The PCM software can influence how faults are detected and reported.
  • If a calibration or software issue is suspected, coordinate with the dealer or OE software tool to verify current calibration and possible updates.

9) Validate and verify repair

  • After performing the likely repair, clear the codes and perform an on-road or dyno-style test to confirm the fault does not reappear.
  • Re-scan to ensure no new codes appear and that data streams show normal operation (stable fuel trims, sensor readings within spec, no misfires, proper O2 sensor switching, etc.).

Tests and measurements to perform (practical examples)

  • Electrical checks:
    • Confirm battery voltage and PCM power supply within spec; check for voltage drops during load.
    • Check ground continuity from PCM and sensor grounds to chassis.
  • Sensor/signal tests (as applicable to the suspected subsystem):
    • Measure sensor reference voltage and signal output with ignition ON, engine OFF, and engine RUNNING.
    • Verify color-coded harness pins and ensure stable continuity without intermittent resistance increases.
  • Fuel system:
    • Measure fuel pressure with engine running; compare to spec across idle and load.
    • Check for abnormal vacuum readings that could indicate leaks or incorrect air-fuel mixture.
  • Airflow and intake:
    • Inspect MAF/MAF-less systems, MAP sensor readings, and throttle position sensor data for consistency with throttle input.
  • Emissions readiness:
    • Confirm that OEM readiness monitors are able to complete during drive cycles if needed.

Documentation

  • Record the exact P-code and any related codes, freeze-frame data, and historical patterns (e.g., intermittent vs. continuous).
  • Note all test results, including measurements, visual findings, and any service information consulted (TSBs, software versions).
  • Provide a clear repair plan with prioritized steps and expected outcomes. After repair, document verification results and any updated data logs.

Safety Considerations

  • Follow standard workshop safety for electrical testing (disconnect power sources when appropriate, avoid shorting circuits).
  • Use proper PPE and ensure the vehicle is secured during diagnostic testing and road testing.
  • If you suspect a fuel system leak or high-pressure issue, take precautions to avoid fire hazards.

This diagnostic guide was generated using verified reference data:

  • Wikipedia Technical Articles: OBD-II
  • Open-Source OBD2 Data: N/A (MIT)

Content synthesized from these sources to provide accurate, real-world diagnostic guidance.


Consider professional help if:

  • You are not comfortable performing the diagnosis yourself
  • The issue requires specialized tools or equipment
  • Initial repairs did not resolve the code
  • Multiple codes are present simultaneously
  • The vehicle is still under warranty

Frequently Asked Questions

What does code P1191 mean?

P1191 indicates Comprehensive diagnostic guide for OBD-II code P1191 Powertrain. This is a powertrain code related to the manufacturer specific system. When your vehicle's computer detects this condition, it stores this code and may illuminate the check engine light.

Can I drive with code P1191?

You may be able to drive short distances with P1191, but it should be addressed soon. Extended driving could lead to additional problems or increased repair costs.

How much does it cost to fix P1191?

Repair costs for P1191 typically range from $100-$800, depending on the root cause and your vehicle. Diagnostic fees are usually $50-$150, and actual repairs vary based on whether parts need replacement. Get multiple quotes for the best price.

What causes code P1191?

Common causes of P1191 include sensor malfunctions, wiring issues, mechanical failures in the manufacturer specific system, or related component wear. The specific cause requires proper diagnosis with a scan tool and visual inspection.

Will P1191 clear itself?

P1191 may temporarily clear if the underlying condition improves, but the root cause should still be diagnosed. If the problem persists, the code will return.

Important Disclaimer

This information is for educational purposes only. We are not licensed mechanics. Always consult a certified mechanic for diagnosis and repair. Improper repairs can be dangerous.

Last updated: 2025-11-26

P1191 diagnostic guide by MechanicGPT