P1356

OBD-II

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Quick Answer

What P1356 Means

This code relates to your vehicle's manufacturer specific system.

Most Likely Cause

Multiple possible causes - see diagnostic details below

Moderate DIY

Difficulty varies depending on the specific cause.

Address Soon

Generally safe to drive short-term. Have it diagnosed soon.

Safe to Drive (Short-Term)

Generally safe to drive short-term. Have it diagnosed soon.

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Detailed Diagnostic Information

P1356 Diagnostic Guide (OBD-II)

What This Code Means

  • Title: Perda de entrada Ignição Módulo de Diagnóstico para PCM (Loss of ignition input to PCM)
  • Interpretation: The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) is not receiving the expected ignition input signal from the ignition module. This generally points to a failure somewhere in the signal path between the ignition module and the PCM (wiring, connector, module, sensor, or PCM input). Source: Open Source OBD2 code definitions (Portuguese title) and MIT-style repository notes.

Context and category

  • OBD-II codes are Diagnostic Trouble Codes used by modern vehicles to indicate powertrain issues and to assist in diagnostics (DTCs). The DTCs cover engine and transmission management and are part of the powertrain codes category.
  • Emissions testing and MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) implications are part of the OBD-II framework; a P1356 code typically indicates a powertrain signal issue that can trigger MIL and affect emissions readiness if the fault is not addressed.

Summary

  • P1356 indicates a loss or absence of the ignition input signal received by the PCM from the ignition module. It is a signal integrity issue rather than a purely mechanical failure of ignition components themselves. Expect symptoms related to starting, engine stability, and/or MIL illumination. The actual root cause is typically in wiring/connectors, ignition module input circuitry, CKP/Ignition-signal path, PCM input, or related power/ground issues.

Common user-facing symptoms (informing from typical real-world scenarios)

  • Engine does not start or struggles to start; intermittent no-start conditions
  • Engine may crank but fail to run or run very rough when it does start
  • MIL illuminated with code P1356 stored in the PCM
  • Intermittent stalling or loss of power during drivability events
  • Misfire codes may appear or follow-on codes related to ignition or crank sensor path
    Note: Symptoms vary by vehicle; the underlying issue is the signal path failure, not typically a single starter or fuel issue unless the signal is blocked.

Probable Causes

  • Wiring and connectors between ignition module and PCM (loose, corroded, damaged pins, broken insulation, harness abrasion): ~40%
  • Faulty ignition control module input or ignition coil driver (ignition module failure, intermittent signal, or defective driver circuit): ~25%
  • Faulty crankshaft position sensor (CKP) or its wiring that disrupts the ignition input signal path to the PCM: ~15%
  • PCM/ECU input pin fault, sensor interface failure, or software/firmware issue (signal acceptance or decoding fault at the PCM): ~10%
  • Power or ground supply issues to the ignition system or PCM (voltage drop, poor grounding, battery/alternator issues affecting signal integrity): ~5%
  • Other or intermittent causes (water intrusion, connector aging, aftermarket wiring alterations): ~5%

Recommended diagnostic flow (step-by-step)

1) Safety and data collection

  • Ensure vehicle is on a flat surface, battery securely connected, and ignition off before disconnecting connectors.
  • Retrieve DTCs with a quality scan tool; confirm P1356 is the only code or note any coexisting codes (e.g., P0335 CKP, P035x coil codes). Record freeze frame data if available.
  • Check for related readiness monitors and emissions readiness status.

2) Visual inspection of the signal path

  • Inspect the wiring harnesses between the ignition module and the PCM for nicks, chafing, heat damage, or moisture intrusion.
  • Check all ignition/PCM connectors for bent pins, corrosion, missing seals, and proper seating. Reseat and reseal as needed.
  • Look for aftermarket wiring or non-OEM splices that could introduce resistance or intermittent contact.

3) Power, ground, and supply verification

  • Verify battery voltage and charging system outputs are within specification.
  • Check that the PCM and ignition module grounds are clean, tight, and of low resistance to chassis/engine block.
  • Confirm any ignition-related fuses/entries are intact and that supply voltages to ignition module circuits are stable.

4) Signal path verification (ignition input signal path)

  • Using an oscilloscope or a high-quality scope-capable DSO, observe the ignition input signal at the PCM (or at the ignition module output that the PCM expects). Look for:
    • Consistent pulses when the engine is cranking (or the CKP signal, if applicable)
    • Any missing, irregular, or degraded signal edges
    • Excessive noise, baseline drift, or intermittent loss of signal
  • If scope access is not available, a top-tier diagnostic scanner with live data that shows ignition input signals or CKP timing pulses can help confirm signal presence/absence.

5) CKP sensor and related circuitry assessment

  • Inspect CKP sensor circuit for proper resistance/voltage according to the vehicle's service information. Look for damaged reluctor rings, misalignment, or timing chain/belt concerns that might affect CKP integrity.
  • Verify CKP sensor wiring integrity along its harness, connectors, and grounds.

6) Ignition module and ignition coil path assessment

  • If wiring and CKP signals check out, test or swap the ignition module input portion or ignition coil driver path if accessible. Intermittent failures may require module testing or substitution with a known-good unit.
  • Check for faulted ignition coils that could be masking the actual signal problem (symptoms can mimic a signal loss).

7) PCM/ECU diagnostics

  • Check for PCM internal fault indicators or fault memory beyond P1356. Inspect for water ingress, corrosion, or failed internal pins on the PCM connector.
  • Where available, review PCM input pin behavior and software version. Consider software updates if recommended by the manufacturer (follow official service information).

8) Functional testing and confirmation

  • After addressing suspected wiring/mechanical issues, clear the codes and perform a road test to reproduce the condition.
  • If P1356 reappears, re-check the signal path and consider replacing the ignition module input circuitry or PCM input interface as indicated by test results.

9) Repair actions (prioritized)

  • Primary repair priorities: fix any wiring/connectors with corrosion, damage, or poor contact, secure connectors, replace degraded insulation, and correct any harness routing issues that could cause abrasion.
  • If wiring path integrity is confirmed and signal still absent, service the ignition module input stage, CKP sensor, or the PCM input interface as indicated by diagnostics.
  • Replace or service the CKP sensor if sensor fault is proven.
  • If PCM input pin or internal PCM fault is established, consider PCM repair or replacement per OEM guidelines.
  • Re-test after each repair step and re-scan for codes.

Optional cross-checks and notes

  • Coexisting codes: If P0335 (CKP) or P0351-P0354 (ignition coil circuits for cylinders) appear with P1356, prioritize CKP/ignition path diagnostics as the likely root cause. The presence of multiple ignition/sensor related codes often points toward wiring/connectors or the PCM input path.
  • Emissions testing: Since P1356 is a powertrain-code category, ensure MIL is addressed and readiness monitors complete; unresolved signal-path issues can cause emissions readiness failures.
  • Documentation: Always refer to vehicle-specific service manuals for exact pinouts, expected signal waveforms, resistance values, and test procedures for ignition module inputs and CKP sensors.

What to avoid

  • Do not replace the PCM without solid evidence of PCM input/interface failure; wiring, sensor, or module input path issues are far more common.
  • Avoid guessing and replacing multiple ignition components without confirming the signal path integrity or wiring issues first.

When to seek factory/vehicle-specific guidance

  • If the vehicle has a unique ignition topology (e.g., distributorless systems, coil-on-plug variations, or proprietary ignition modules), consult the OEM service information for exact test procedures, expected waveforms, and pin-by-pin troubleshooting steps.
  • If the code persists after all wiring, CKP, and ignition module tests, consider a PCM diagnosis with OEM diagnostic tools or supplier diagnostics.

This diagnostic guide was generated using verified reference data:

  • Wikipedia Technical Articles: OBD-II
  • Open-Source OBD2 Data: N/A (MIT)

Content synthesized from these sources to provide accurate, real-world diagnostic guidance.


Consider professional help if:

  • You are not comfortable performing the diagnosis yourself
  • The issue requires specialized tools or equipment
  • Initial repairs did not resolve the code
  • Multiple codes are present simultaneously
  • The vehicle is still under warranty

Frequently Asked Questions

What does code P1356 mean?

P1356 indicates OBD-II. This is a powertrain code related to the manufacturer specific system. When your vehicle's computer detects this condition, it stores this code and may illuminate the check engine light.

Can I drive with code P1356?

You may be able to drive short distances with P1356, but it should be addressed soon. Extended driving could lead to additional problems or increased repair costs.

How much does it cost to fix P1356?

Repair costs for P1356 typically range from $100-$800, depending on the root cause and your vehicle. Diagnostic fees are usually $50-$150, and actual repairs vary based on whether parts need replacement. Get multiple quotes for the best price.

What causes code P1356?

Common causes of P1356 include sensor malfunctions, wiring issues, mechanical failures in the manufacturer specific system, or related component wear. The specific cause requires proper diagnosis with a scan tool and visual inspection.

Will P1356 clear itself?

P1356 may temporarily clear if the underlying condition improves, but the root cause should still be diagnosed. If the problem persists, the code will return.

Important Disclaimer

This information is for educational purposes only. We are not licensed mechanics. Always consult a certified mechanic for diagnosis and repair. Improper repairs can be dangerous.

Last updated: 2025-11-26

P1356 diagnostic guide by MechanicGPT